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Im not crazy about please adviseits a vague and strangely worded requestbut at least its a request! You need to add a payment method to get our special promo , Enter your email below to get instant access to the first Chapter of our Ebook, We're so happy that you liked your revision! You know, I think everyones got their pet peeves with email. Thats fine. Shed been told about that by other staff, so I reminded her of that event, and then said, this is one reason the parking procedure was put in place. When I have a good relationship with someone and see please advise, I think nothing of it. Please let me know when it is completed. You must be a pretty powerful person to single-handedly derail someones political career. Please advise. Tuesday, 1/25: 2pm - 4pm EST. It just hangs without a conclusion. He became legendary and it always lightened the tone of the email. Because it's a special occasions. I do too! It is now on your side of the line. Say what you mean to say. Addressing specific people is key to getting the work done. as a manager, should I not wear a childless shirt in my off-hours? 0. But if they are generally fine as coworkers, then youre better off not reading into how ever they phrase their emails. What else was I supposed to say? If you dont have the friendliest relationship with that person, their please advise can sound snippy. I read it as deferential. How should I handle your request? That comes off as way more snarky/passive-agressive than please advise. This happens quite frequently in my current job and its quite normal. Thanks a lot for editors. I cant see it however the email had the comment. With a little picture of Puss in Boots from Shrek, holding his hat and with The Eyes. I dont throw please advise to everything. 3) People who mark each of their emails as Important. Oooh, yeah. Me: OK, Ill pick some and have a draft for you to review next week. Although I usually prefer let me know what you think since I know please advice grates on some people. I like it because they might actually need something before they complete and return the thing I need; if not, its a memory jog that doesnt automatically assume theyre not on the ball. Ha, this post brings back memories. + Read the full interview, I love TextRanch because of the reliable feedback. No one is demanding that you stop holding up an important project more like, I would like to take my break today at 5 instead of 6. 1) Using the royal we when clearly asking for a specific person in the group to help. I mean, we all have our pet peeves, but deciding that someone is a rude jerk based on a single turn of phrase just seems unnecessary. I dont typically send reminders because I figure you are a grown-up and you can (should be able to) manage your own deadlines. Sometimes Id be copied in as a courtesy, other times someone was expecting an answer from me, and sometimes I was supposed to understand that I should NOT reply even if I knew the answer (because of the political implications of the message, the people on the email chain, etc.). The issue is that they want to find a delicate way, which implies I dont think you can handle a straightforward mention that Im still waiting on this. The desire to more delicate than that is what grates. 1st Option: Be the student who only gets average marks in every SAC and exam (50-60% in everything) and have a strong social life, while having fun memories at school. Heeeeelllllloooooooo? (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. The seller with an email address above tried to sell tv in UK but never wanted to meet up and show the goods. Yes, agreed. More popular! LOL I read it as some character from a Disney movie about to break into song. Sometimes Ive had people reply with Do I need to know more? or Is there more? and then we can have a conversation about that, rather than me give them a long monologue without checking in with them first to make sure they want to know more. This is great advice! Copyright 2007 - 2023 Ask A Manager. Makes my blood boil. I work with someone who uses thoughts? a lot. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); Attempt to manage you/assign tasks and they arent your manager? But it does feel like theres a need to end the email with what youre looking for. OMG yes please do the needful makes me stabby. Personally, I never end my emails with Please advise. It just is not my style and I dont like how extremely formal it feels. That seems really rude; after all, Im the one who is requesting the call so I should do the dialing. Try these: Yes, Wednesday suits me fine? I bet these are the same thrifty people who are saving their turn signals for some special occasion. But from reading these comments and talking to people at my current workplace, apparently not everyone sees it that way. As a non-native speaker, I always have second thoughts about my expressions. From the Cambridge English Corpus Please let us know your name. Here are some basic steps to help you tell an interviewer you have another offer: 1. If you have an actual question, please ask the actual question directly. Haha, I see people mentioning that here all the time but I have never received an email that said anything about doing the needful. Yes, passive aggressive! I guess what I am trying to convey is "if you email back saying no I'm not going to be upset or start arguing with you". give you my account number) or a check issued in favor of my person. Its lazy. *other English-speaking nations have their own usage or slang, [dont know where the rest of that sentence went]. I dislike the gentle reminder it feels patronizing to me. I really hate sending those please submit your TPS report by noon, Friday e-mails, but its a part of my job (my least favorite part of my job). Hell routinely ask me to send external invites for him, then 5 minutes later follow up with something like Has Bob accepted yet? 3. So its not on top of a question. This was meant in response to Katie the fed. Please let me know vs Please tell me. yeah I agree. If you're on the conservative side, you may want to just take my word for it. I agree, and especially if its used after a question. My current manager is really fond of the smiley faces in outlook, so I have a rule button that replies to messages with just a smiley face. Some physicians can get a bit touchy about being questioned by a pharmacist, so I use please advise because it can help sooth feelings and imply that they are still in charge. No. I hate it when someone comes to me and just says here are three options, which do you want? without providing any of their thoughts on it. I have ever heard Americans use the baby talk it is just 5 sleeps until we arrive at Disney World but I suppose they will pick it up since it is used so often by British travelers on line. She did not last very long in that job anyway. Please advise. The servers youve asked me to scan dont exist. Early in my job I would give people way, WAY more information than necessary in emails before I realized that this can be offensive and its almost always better to use the minimum information necessary for clarity (not that that is necessarily easy to determine, but as a goal). It feels like a power play. Just as Im used to people replying with something like Great, thanks! or Ok, no problem rather than acknowledged, Im used to people ending emails with what do you think? or is it ok if we do X? not please advise.. I agree that benefit of the doubt is important when reading emails just because tone can be hard to convey correctly sometimes, but it seems like an oxymoron to say dont read into tone that isnt there when you have no way to know what the tone is supposed to be aside from what you can grasp by the words the sender used. Being English, I wish we would adopt wee because it is such a warm word. (2) I dont know what to do and Im making it your problem. I think the world would be a somewhat nicer place if everyone did this. Please let me know whic h way of pay ment you prefer - whether a ba nk transfer (I'll. Dana. I was thinking this too. I have found that simply putting are you able to help me resolve this? will also work. I was already going to do the needful. EllieH Me too. Im pretty sure all 200,000 plus employees at my company use it regularly! I suspect itd be relatively easy to write a business email assist function that would help people compose nicer, clearer, more consistent emails. I think please advise is okay when youre asking a question going up the ladder, but coming from a manager to a subordinate it does usually come off as, please advise WTF you were thinking when you did this., Yeah, since someone above you is unlikely to actually want anything that could be called advice from you haha. Thats true, now that I think of it. Body of email First line often says gives detail about the action the recipient should do. Your feedback helps us improve our service. Ive never heard sleeps in the US. Yes, when I read this question, my first thought was that I use it as sort of a sign-off after having gotten deeply into details. Iris. Some people are more formal than others. Or they are new and still learning the ropes? Not only does it annoy me because the person could have just called me, but I also now have a pit in my stomach, dreading whatever situation it is that requires a phone call without any written discussion. Can you please clarify? I admit Ive never heard of this interpretation of that closing. BTW, this reminds me of a former peer who frequently signed off with Thanks in advance, or even used her own acronym, TIA! Sexy way of putting it! I had a calculus teacher who said a combination of the words so um ok yeah every few sentences. w.attachEvent("onload", loader); I use please advise sparingly, and only in the following two situations: (1) You have dropped the ball and its become my problem. I dont know. I love this, and will forever now think of it this way every time I type it. I picked up the doubt thing from a really awesome math professor I had in college who would ask does anyone have any doubts? after going over something on the board. And its also a way of warning others that people are jumping line and I am not happy about it. From coworker B, it makes me want to hulk-smash and scream hey, try to solve this incredibly simple non-issue before emailing me!. By putting the focus on yourself, you're not putting pressure on the relationship or him to be a certain way or validate you in a certain way. :) and yes, there are a lot of customary informal misspellings there. I have to add something along the lines of Please let me know xyz or Let me know if there is anything else, or I might even cordially thank them for their help in advance. :D I wonder what would happen if you just said no to Can I ask you a question for a few days. Many translated example sentences containing "please let me know" - French-English dictionary and search engine for French translations. or Please let us know your thoughts on this.? And grammatically speaking, not all requests for a response have to be phrased as a question. How may I help you? or even Next in line, please., I have fortunately never heard that phrase , but I suspect that somewhere along the way Whos next? got combined with I can take/help the next customer in line (or something similar), Ok, I can see that. But usually not, and you can always tell from the context whether the person is using it sarcastically or sincerely. I hate the phrase. Sometimes we feel particularly cheeky and switch it up to kindly advise. This whole discussion is fascinating to me, because at my current job please advise is used a lot. where a I truly dont know what to do, please help me is completely warranted. From the Cambridge English Corpus His preferred option is theory of mind ability, which underpins processes of cultural learning and cultural accumulation and transmission. Hello, Dahling!, People in Namibia do that too, although typically only with others they know. Such a pet peeve of mine! persons IM: Can you talk? Apparently its a standard phrase in Indian English (and not at all meant to be insulting), and Ive seen it in emails between Indian coworkers a few times now. 1. I had other people read them and they never got angry from my emails, they said my emails read as clear and matter of fact. Most of the email is explaining the situation, then please advise.. I had an obnoxious passive aggressive manager once who would scold you for some nitpicky infraction and then give you a syrupy Thanks for all you do to send you on your merry way. A message that was truly friendly wouldnt need to be softened, so when you get a heads up that should be a non-issue but its been thoroughly bubble wrapped it can come across that the sender is making a big deal about it and that has frustrating implications. On that note, has anyone noticed the difference in these two phrases? I also get gentle reminder emails and never take offense. Oftentimes even after the actual document has already been shared!! They are conserving letters so the letters do not wear out or get all used up. LOL. Has Bob accepted yet? (Yes or no) Have you booked that hotel? (Yes or no) How do I save a word file (have you never used a computer before?). So you took the time so send an email to tell me to call you and thats easier than just picking up the phone and calling me yourself? Im good at sussing this out now, but for the first year I was in this role, I found it really challenging. I dont think its such a terrible phrase until someone inevitably writes please advice. Almost nothing makes me grind my teeth more. my boyfriends manager told me I could date someone better, new CEO keeps talking about diet and exercise, coworker asks me to cover for him when hes not really off, and more. I often use it with my boss or MOR to get their advice i.e. I alwaya say friendly reminder. If necessary it becomes friendly but urgent! To me, its off puttingly brusque to say, reminder, I need this by friday, or your veeblefitz report is late, I need it asap. But then, Im from the Say-outh, where we use lots of words to hide displeasure. I would be happy to hear irritating, stupid stuff all day, if I was getting paid. The third is forward yet subduednot a bad option, honestly. my pet peeve is when people say please advice. My newest habit is ending question-filled emails with Let me know and thanks. I almost always used please advise passive-aggressively with my boss but I never read it that way when others sent it to me so I dont know! Boss: We need to have Horatio sign it. ", Reliable, meticulous and astonishingly prompt. Usually it is something that has gotten lost in my inbox and I appreciate someone sending me a gentle reminder rather than just cursing my lack of responsiveness behind my back. But I dont think Ive ever used it on top of an already asked question rather, it IS the question. Thank you !! On the please advise thing. and it drives me insane. It only happens rarely, but every once in a while Im asked to email someone about something and I really have no idea what Im doing/what the end goal is, so I put please advise. If my calls and emails have been ignored, I will politely include this phrase. This. But if its just a heres a problem, what should I do? then my advice is that you should rewrite your email and come back to me when you have a plan of action. And a section called the hazards of over thinking. If I dont know what the other party could potentially offer, Im seeking them out specifically for that information. In Taiwan, the one that was odd to me was addressing people as dears whether in the email salutation or in person. Its not a positive association. I dont use the phrase for one of the reasons Alison mentioned: Its too formal for my taste. I used to think it was extremely formal and cold, but now it has no affect on me because it is used so freakin often. Not all jobs are client-facing however, so it may not be appropriate for all industries. })(window, document); 2023 TextRanch, LLC. It really is the nude pump of email etiquette. It's the best online service that I have ever used! And then ask me the question. 2 I am sending a communication to our executive team and will need their thoughts on how to proceed. Even better still. We used to have this. Here you can set your new address email. Please let me know what options you have in the $20 range. Are they presenting you with new information about something thats typically your responsibility? Which one do you prefer? On many email systems, IT folks can lock down the major email lists with a restriction on who can send emails to them. I think we could write Please let me know which you prefer or What do you think? and offend nobody. Same goes for people who use Comic Sans and other scribbly fonts that are hard to read which I think is unprofessional. Ok, this is hilarious, because I used to this way today! + Read the full interview, I love that TextRanch editors are real people who revise the text and provide feedback it makes it so personal. The same thing happened at my old job as well! Maybe thats a little too informal for some places, but it generally works for me. Same as something like, what can we do about this? It can be a genuine question or it can be a thinly veiled way of saying I would like you to tell me how to help you not do something like this again.. We're pretty excited about this feature, so please let us know how it works for you. Bobby: Jane and I spoke, and we had a question about X. FYI, I copied Sue into the conversation as shes working on Y so I wanted to keep her looped in. papenfuss. So basically, get over yourself and please advise. Clearly Im gong to advise you dont tell me how to do my job. and the comments from the editors", My editor understood my intention and gave me a good advice !! On the scale of things that bother me about emails, this is way, way down the list (and honestly I hadnt even given it specific thought until I saw this post), but I dont really like it. We KNOW that some cultures crowd up and breath down your neck; we KNOW in our heads that it is a cultural difference this does not prevent the visceral reaction to being crowded that people who require more personal space feel. Example: Just checking in to see if theres anything else you need from me so you can complete the [thing you havent sent back to me].. Or at the very least tell him what I think needs to be done, and just ask for his sign-off that its ok. Every time I get an email that ends with please advise I want to send one back that says I advise you to stop ending your emails with please advise! That is the most annoying phrase ever! Thank you.. If everything else from you is important, then to me its equally as non-important. In business use the phrase becomes an additional command. Emails were coming in all day long. One of their common email closings was, Please advise of the needful. Trust me, you cannot stop people from asking! let me know your favorites. That does happen to me on occasion. To my boss, about another group entirely, and Im sure she knows me well enough to know what I meant. This answer would please the interviewer if there was concern about the applicant's dedication to the job or ability or desire to work longer hours. I dont know how to line up a potential solution if I dont know what solutions exist, and thats why Im contacting them in the first place. I dont like gentle reminder either, but I think prefacing this kind of request with Just a reminder without the gentle is not a bad idea. I use it as more of a heads up- I need some input from you. please advise as a declarative statement instead of a question is almost always used passive-aggressively. ! Using please advise is my office-appropriate way of telling someone theyre on my list. Or sometimes, thanks for reading and mulling this one over. Sometimes I close with thanks for reading. - Artwork will be emailed to you as a high quality 150dpi JPEG. time. If I have to remind you again, it wont be so friendly. They are synonymous phrases, so sure, but I like please advise better. Well, its one example. (c): . as an example, someone is speaking at an event, for which we dont pay for, but reimburse for. If it sounds normal and polite out loud, I think its fine to use in an email. She said because it didnt have a question It was impossible not to notice. Shes lovely, but I dont like the phrase. No need to be weirdly deferential. At my job, theres generally a designated admin on the approved senders list. "Please let me know when a good time would be - to meet - to talk - to have lunch" Or "Please let me know when would b. That irritates me too. If I have one grievance to file about business email, it would be that I wish people wouldnt use words that they dont understand. you made this easier,thanks or something similar. Just say, "Please let me know when it's done." March 31, 2012. or call us at (205) 502-2500. No agenda or a brief description nothing. I only had to explain it to him once. If I have to remind you more than once youre probably on my nerves more than I am on yours. Though now that I work in a more casual situation, I just say Please let me know, and sometimes I even omit the Please. Whats the verdict? I dont think the IM itself is what AMG is referring to its when the person IMing then wants you to be the one to call them, even though theyre the one who wants something. Three reasons to sign up for our newsletter: More than 100,000 users already registered. At times, I have described a situation and dont bother with Qs since I need advice on how to proceed (usually politically dangerous situations). Me, too. Please let me know when everything is ready. You do not become a priority to him by making him your priority. I sign my emails with Regards all the time. I have also heard children use sleeps, as in only 3 sleeps till my birthday.. About half my relatives are from the South, and Ive never heard any of them use this phrase in anything other than a sincere way. Can I help anyone? versus Who was next? Ummmmmmm. So I write all my emails in a formal, succinct manner. Assuming this is really the only issue the OP has with her people shes their manager, she can tell them what to do. is it unprofessional to have an email address with 69 in it? This is what I generally do. I dot: Thoughts? for that. THIS! I dont like What do you think? because Im not asking for thoughts or ideas, Im looking for explicit instructions on what to do next. I thought, Maybe Im wrong? I suspect part of the reason for our culture being this way is that we have a fairly open floorplan, so if we were to routinely talk at our desks, it would be disruptive. Ive now defaulted to kind regards for every single email regardless of content. Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. Some appreciate it so they dont have to take 30 minutes to craft a reply to me. On that note, I also hate Thanks in advance. so if I suddenly decide Im not doing this for you, will you be sending another email revoking that thanks, then? Its when they say call me, especially from someone senior. Please let me know. She then said What parking procedure? }; Option 1 likely will result in this behavior but Option 2 will accomplish this.. The addition of please advise feels demanding and bratty and of course redundant. 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