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Traeger said he asked his wife if he could move back in, and when she refused, she grabbed the phone to call 911 because he wouldn't leave, the probable cause affidavit said. David Byron: Michael Reuschel had months and months to go over the evidence and construct a story that fit with things that he couldn't admit. I'm good. WebA Florida man has admitted to killing his wife in 2018 after she filed for divorce from him. David Byron: There are text messages where she accuses him of smothering her with a pillow, which in fact is the same instance that she ended up scratching him in the face. He wanted us to work on the marriage. Det. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. I couldn't feel anything, and I could see into my arm. Fr nhere Informationen zur Nutzung Ihrer Daten lesen Sie bitte unsere Datenschutzerklrung und Cookie-Richtlinie. Sue says as she was lying there, struggling to stay awake, she saw Mike raise the knife yet again. Autopsies will be held to determine the exact cause of deaths for the victims, neither of whom was identified. Investigators say the child is that of a friend. Prosecutors also want the jury to know that the severity of Sue's wrist wound suggests she did not do it herself: David Byron: The one that was truly life-threatening was the cuts that the defendant made to her wrist. ANN FINNELL: But it is about 50 times, isn't it? Mike says Sue attacked him when the fight escalated: MIKE REUSCHEL: She throws the phone at me and charges around the bed, pushes and starts her typical beating like this [bangs his fists]. Seems pretty sick to have it in that section. Peter Van Sant: What was the state of their marriage? Detective Angel Rodriguez said police were called to the home at about 2 p.m. and found a woman dead at the scene, WPLG reported. Michael Berkland: When it comes to this injury to the wrist, Michael's story makes more sense. This is a blood bath committed by one person who has imprisoned the other on that bed. He just wasn't very good at it. Sue's injuries were life threatening and, as medics rushed to save her, Detective David Visconti was called to the scene. i want more info. In 2005, after 25 years of marriage, Didi asked for a divorce. She stood up and tried to stop the attacker from stabbing her lover, which was a very bad move. Castro-Arroyo was charged with second-degree murder and tampering with evidence. Peter Van Sant: Here are two sophisticated people, very wealthy, living in paradise, one of most beautiful parts of Florida and yet they couldn't work this out It's a real tragedy, isn't it? February 20, 2021 / 10:02 PM I said," Oh, my God Mike, did you just stab me?" I agree. The father is said to have seen his daughter lying in a pool of blood on the ground. WebIt was of a man who caught his (wife) cheating with another man and stabbed them both. Mike reported that he and his wife Sue had been stabbed by an intruder inside their home in an upscale section of Gainesville. Shocking incident took place in the village of Shama in south-west Instead, their expert says the blood was most likely castoff flung from the knife and not from Sue cutting her own wrist: David Byron: The castoff shows that he was swinging that knife as he's plunging it into her stomach and into her neck. If Mike is speaking the truth, this happy conversation happened on a bed soaked with blood and human waste. Also it was his ex-wife, they were separated and she was with her new man. Sean Brewer | Prosecutor: Michael went through great lengths to try and kill Susan. On my children's lives all I did was defend myself when I got attacked. But soon, another woman unexpectedly joined the family. Anthony Howard Hare is at the Orange County Jail without bond on an attempted first-degree murder charge. Mkie Reuschel documented some of his injuries. Bellamy then lit a fire in the bedroom, with the smoke leading to 911 calls that alerted officers to the bloodbath. Someone's in the house and the next thing I know I wake up next to my wife and I'm bleeding. But i can never find any more on it. Officers found Castro-Arroyo's wife inside her car with multiple stab wounds and she was pronounced dead at the scene by Miami-Dade Fire Rescue. Traeger told investigators he "panicked" and didn't want to call police and "be blamed for killing her," so he put her in trash bags and into the garbage bin for pick up, the probable cause affidavit said. Mike doesn't say how he got his hands on the knife, but he says as they struggled and fell over on the bed, he felt the blade go into Sue's stomach. The 41-year-old Pinellas Park man is charged with murder and attempted murder. The prosecution says it was all his idea to cover up what he had done. The defense counters that Mike's other internet searches prove that he was being abused by Sue: PAT MCGUINNESS: Did you visit numerous sites related to battered husbands? He had some small cuts on his fingers and stomach. And the prosecution disputes defense expert Michael Berkland's claim that these stains on the nightstand came from spurting blood from Sue's wrist. WebThe boyfriend died at the age of 41. This is your dress. MIKE REUSCHEL: I don't know. Copyright 2023 Local10.com is published by WPLG INC., a Berkshire Hathaway company. And she said, "Then make up a story so I don't get arrested.". And its evidence of the fact that Michael Reuschel was so physically capable of constraining her that none of those things are disturbed. Mike arrives home, and the two share a kiss before heading out. And I'm on the bed with her now, we're all on our knees. Caroline Reuschel: And my dad seemed to be laughing and having a good time. Didi Hoffman: Truthfully, he wasn't around much, so it was it was hard. Traeger was charged with homicide, making a false report and destroying or tampering with evidence. Peter Van Sant: And you're telling me the truth? David Byron | Prosecutor: I don't think it's believable at all. The video has already been seen by more than 10 million people and for a while was the most viewed video on the social media platform. Investigators say the child is that of a friend. And I dropped to the sidewalk [crying] and I just sat on the sidewalk. Nothing like that at all? Peter Van Sant: Mike I just wanna hear you tell me. Didi Hoffman: Mike and I were really opposites. Sue helped her pick out a dress. David Byron | Prosecutor:: There's a full glass of wine, there's some glasses, there's a lamp. Mike Reuschel: Absolutely. Peter Van Sant: No broken window, no knocked down door. January 14, 2023. I mean, when you hear who Michael and Susan Reuschel were before this all occurred, they lived exemplary and mostly normal lives. Didi met Mike in college; they married and had two daughters, Caroline and Kate. While he was in jail awaiting trial, an informant came forward to claim Mike tried to hire a hit man to kill Sue a charge Mike strongly denies. When first responders entered the bloody scene in the early morning hours of February 3, 2018, they'd been told by Mike Reuschel that a stranger had broken into their home and assaulted his wife and then him with a knife. Caroline Reuschel: And he said "Sue was arrested" And he said 'she started attacking me." He told the jury she had tormented him for years: MIKE REUSCHEL: She lunged at me again, punched in the face, scratched my face, punched me in the arms and bent my glasses, actually. I'm not going to get you arrested. I didn't count. The defense team says if we can't trust Sue's account about what time things happened, then her entire story is suspect. From the outside, the Reuschels seemed happy and enjoyed a luxury lifestyle. The father then called the police after speaking to Clark, but the suspect had fled by the time they had arrived. The surviving wife is 23. MICHAEL BERKLAND: In a climate-controlled room. It happened around 2:00 p.m. at a home near the 2000 block of Northwest 52nd street. MIKE REUSCHEL: I don't care if she's a mellow drunk the rest of her life. According to the Miami Herald, Clark had posted a message on Facebook after allegedly killing Alleyne, indicating he was going to take his own life and apologizing to his victim's family. Mike Reuschel is convicted of the most serious count against him. And then all the sudden I saw a knife coming. November 30, 2021, 11:12 AM. And Sue says the larger cuts to his forearms were, in fact, self-inflicted. Brewer: This is a lot of blood. Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. It was updated on February 20, 2021.]. MICHAEL REUSCHEL: Yeah, that is true. The video is extremely disturbing warning contains very graphic content. Here they are photographed in Dublin in 2016. He was arrested by the NYPD several times between 1993 and 2001 for robbery, assault, harassment, possession and sale of marijuana, larceny, weapons charges and even manslaughter, the sheriff said. WebA Florida man accused of stabbing his girlfriend to death called her father over FaceTime as she lay dying on the floor, according to reports. Despite the alleged abuse and Sue's arrest, Mike says he still loved his wife and wanted to stay married. MIAMI (CBSMiami) - Miami-Dade Police released the name of the man who allegedly stabbed his wife to death in Northwest Miami-Dade Tuesday morning. "Never in one million years would I think that my wedding would be the catalyst for all of this.". "It's about the power of desire for control.". Didi Hoffman: he could never have done anything like this. Sean Brewer: When she agrees to go with his story of the intruders, she saved her life. Once out, he discovered that his girlfriend had moved another man into his home in Davenport while he was incarcerated. They both have trauma consistent with those injuries, the department said. PALM SPRINGS, Fla. (WFLA) A Palm Springs woman made her first court appearance Sunday in her own husbands murder. Caroline Reuschel: No honestly, I don't mean to laugh. She moved to their beach condo and got counseling for alcohol and anger management. If you need help with the Public File, call (954) 364-2526. Sue Reuschel says Mike attacked her because she told him she was divorcing him that night. ANN FINNELL | Defense attorney: It is absolutely impossible to have happened the way she claims it did. DAVID BYRON: You didn't tell this jury that after all you've been through, it didn't seem fair for Susan to take half your money? NO VIDEO IN LINK. Some two years after they met, Mike married Sue in August 2007. Caroline says it was nearly perfect except for something that caught her eye an unusual mark on her father's face. Mike never mentions that, and prosecutor David Byron suspects why. SEAN BREWER: and the actual organs that you were storing included brains and hearts? Jurors utterly reject Mike's story of a knife fight with his wife. The woman stabbed Dagana when And he believes the blood on the pillowcase and on the nightstand came from that artery. Mike says they argued about a possible cover story, but then, as bizarre as it sounds, they just lay together bleeding for several hours, having what Mike says was one of the best conversations of their lives about future vacations to Europe: MIKE REUSCHEL: We talked about going to Germany on the Rhine and Moselle River cruise. SUE REUSCHEL: He said, "uh, Sue, we're not getting a divorce.". Onelio Castro-Arroyo, 51, called police a short time after murdering his wife and admitted to them what he had done, according to his arrest report. Caroline does not have long to wait. Its not hard to find. Traeger's stepfather told police he had been warning Catanzaro about Traeger's "violent behavior" for over a month, the probable cause affidavit said. Traeger told police they were married for 10 years but were arguing over financial problems and faced "marital problems over the past year due to his heroin addiction," documents said. Miami-Dade police are investigating after a man apparently stabbed his wife to death Saturday afternoon. It was all on film. Det. When police searched the dumpster, they found a sharp edged weapon and Castro-Arroyo's t-shirt covered in blood. Florida man accused of stabbing ex-wife is found dead inside home. Det. 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David Visconti: Typically, we'll see many things knocked over, furniture, items broken, indentations in the walls, in the drywall. Peter Van Sant: Where were you and how did you learn that your father on February 3rd, 2018, had been arrested? You're under arrest.". MIKE REUSCHEL: All I want out of a woman in my life is someone to be kind and nice to me. Ive seen some videos where they continue on after the killing and just seeing their whole demeanor change (for some) is wild to watch. The case began as a missing person investigation. Michael Reuschel doesn't meet any of the criteria for what a battered spouse is. The defense also tries to counter Sue's claim that Mike's attack came after she threatened divorce. Im interested in the things they say/do before and how it affects them. Berkland says the organs were preserved for private cases he was working on while he was still a licensed doctor. Produced by Sarah Prior, Paul LaRosa and Dena Goldstein. BAY COUNTY, Fla. (WMBB) A St. Andrews man is dead after allegedly stabbing his ex-wife. Hi! Rodriguez said that upon arrival, units discovered an adult female dead at the scene. As we were interviewing Caroline, she got a phone call that surprised us. Super meth: What to know about the deadly drug, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Want to see, no for pleasure, but for my own curiosity. And defense attorney Ann Finnell suggests those texts also reveal Sue's destructive intentions: ANN FINNELL: Have you told him "I hate you? In February 2018 he asked Sue to come to Gainesville for the weekend. Clark had also ran off with Alleyne's 1-year-old baby, triggering an amber alert in the county. WebFurious husband stabs his wife to death and cuts off love rival's genitals after finding them in bed together. November 15, 2021 12:06 pm. Caroline Reuschel: I called him on his birthday. Peter Van Sant: They say a quick verdict is often a prosecutor's verdict. MIKE REUSCHEL: Yeah, but it's not spurting, and there's no blood at all you can see on Sue through the through here [points towards his upper torso, where Sue was first stabbed]. But Mike says Sue cut her own wrist at around 3 a.m. hours later. Peter Van Sant: This is Mike Reuschel's pajamas? The boyfriend escaped by jumping off the second floor balcony and getting help from a neighbor while the estranged wife called 911. Didi Hoffman: I have known Michael James Reuschel since I was 19 and I wouldn't be here today if I thought Mike was possibly capable of harming another person. WebMIAMI-DADE COUNTY, Fla. Police are investigating after a man fatally stabbed his wife in northwest Miami-Dade on Saturday afternoon, authorities said. A 36-year-old man was arrested Wednesday after Orange County deputy sheriffs say he stabbed his estranged wife and Det. I have been unable to find the legit video. The prosecution believes it was all about money that Mike didn't want to give up half his fortune millions of dollars in a divorce. David Visconti: There was most certainly a struggle There was a vast amount of blood around the bed that was located on the wall of the bedroom . On Monday, Traeger told investigators that his wife died accidentally; he said he saw her lying in a pool of blood on the kitchen floor so he assumed she had a seizure and died from hitting her head, the probable cause affidavit said. Then the side dude was stabbed multiple times in the body. Former headteacher Rhys Peter Van Sant: Do you mind me asking how much the dress was worth? I looked at pictures and descriptions of how they would treat their male. Caroline Reuschel: He's sent me multiple pictures of him with a black eye. My hand, it was like this [showing her scars]. MIKE REUSCHEL: I get up out of the bed to deal with the dog, and and behind me was the knife. Peter Van Sant: As the jury goes out to deliberate what are those minutes and hours like for you? A Florida man allegedly stabbed his wife to death after she refused to let him move back in, and then threw her body out in the trash and left it to be picked up by the garbage truck, according to police. Never. MIKE REUSCHEL: She's falling backwards and I'm falling in front and on top. What's more, the Reuschels had security cameras covering the outside the house. Still, Visconti had no doubt that something terrible had happened inside that house. MATT F.: He is one of the most caring, kind gentle people I have ever met. But when Sue awoke from surgery for her life-threatening in juries, she gave police a different storysaying Mike was her true attacker. SEAN BREWER: Were you storing them at Uncle Bob's Storage shed? Bellamy previously lived in New York with records showing numerous addresses in Long Island, including Bellport, Medford and Central Islip and has a lengthy rap sheet here, the sheriff noted. It's so beautiful. He was engaging and outgoing and And I was really and I think I still am more reserved and not quite so exuberant. Peter Van Sant: During your many years with Mike, was he ever physically abusive to you? Caroline remembers the first time she met Sue at a dinner. Heres everything you need to know about The Grinch sequel, plus the best books your kid can check out now. "There's no way on God's green earth that my father would stab anyone," says Caroline Reuschel. The stepfather told police "he made Jeneen promise to call every morning when she woke up so he would know that she was alive," the document said. Please be nice to me, please.". Mike and his defense claim Sue was an abusive wife who was often in conflict with Mike over his daughter Caroline and Caroline's expensive wedding only made things worse. And I said "How are you doing?" Sue is seen on home security video getting ready and enjoying a glass of wine. He was taken to a hospital in Miami hospital where is being treated for his wounds. But in court, now with his defense attorneys Patrick McGuinness and Ann Finnell, Mike admits that story was a lie, and says he's finally ready to tell the truth. It was all on film. Florida man stabs wife to death, leaves But it is beyond laughable. FOX 35 Orlando. The wedding itself in November 2017 would be a royal-like affair. SWAT officers later found the man dead in a nearby St. Andrews home. The prosecution refutes Mike's claims that he still wanted to reconcile the troubled marriage by pointing out that he had visited three dating sites: DAVID BYRON: Ukrainian single girl, Irina. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Mike Reuschel says he lied about the intruder to protect Sue from getting arrested for attacking him. The couple's happier times are reflected in some of the thousands of text messages that surfaced during legal proceedings. Did you take a knife into the room that night on February 2nd, 2018, and attack your wife? Either way it's a hard video to watch. I'm divorcing u U dk." According to Rodriguez, preliminary information indicates there was a 911 call stating an adult male had stabbed his wife. But, like in many marriages, there were problems. He wasn't allowed to take my call in front [voice breaks] of her. Two Popular Rappers SkinnyFromThe9 & YBN Jay Fight & 1 Gets Knocked Out!! Daten ber Ihr Gert und Ihre Internetverbindung, wie Ihre IP-Adresse, Browsing- und Suchaktivitten bei der Nutzung von Yahoo Websites und -Apps. Calm down." She says Sue was the aggressor that night, and Mike was just defending himself: ANN FINNELL: She hates everybody. Caroline Reuschel: He has a picture that he showed me of his face gushing blood. But police said video surveillance from the neighborhood showed Catanzaro come home on Nov. 27 and never leave the house again, documents said. Caroline Reuschel reacts when hearing her father's guilty verdict. Onelio Castro-Arroyo (Source: Miami-Dade Corrections). does anyone know what part of fl this happened? WebOKALOOSA COUNTY, Fla. (WMBB) A 51-year-old Shalimar man accused of stabbing his wife was found hanging in his cell during a routine cell check at 4:30 a.m. on Sunday. And I got an incoming call on my cell phone and it was a recording that said, "An inmate from the Alachua County Jail has called you.". Sean Brewer | Prosecutor: This is the knife that was used to stab Susan. Police had been called to the scene of the stabbing, in the 6800 block of NW 179 St, less than an hour before Castro-Arroyo had called 9-1-1. The video first surfaced on Twitter on Friday, and quickly went viral. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Klicken Sie auf Einstellungen verwalten um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und Ihre Einstellungen zu verwalten. Police and prosecutors believe the evidence in the Reuschel home shows Mike constrained Sue to the bed during the attack. Neighbors said they saw around five Miami-Dade police cars rush to the home. Caroline Reuschel quickly answered and heard the voice she'd known her entire life. ANN FINNELL: And on your anniversary in 2017, "hate u Happy 10th anniversary. 160 people attended the wedding and Caroline says the day was "magical.". Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. WebFlorida Man's Brotherly Love Takes a Sharp Turn with a Stabbing Incident. Terrible, does anyone know any names in this case? A Florida man accused of stabbing his girlfriend to death called her father over FaceTime as she lay dying on the floor, according to reports. He was taken to Orlando Regional Medical Center with stab wounds to the chest and head, while she suffered multiple deep cuts to the left arm, abdomen and face. Not ever. PATRICK MCGUINESS | Defense attorney: Now, you're both bleeding during this point in time, right? Michael Berkland: The arterial spurt patterns. Mike refers to Sue as his "trophy bride," and writes that their lives together are simply "amazing.". Peter Van Sant: Which leads you to believe what? 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. Miami-Dade Police located Castro-Arroyo at a residence in the 700 block of SW 11 Avenue where he was taken into custody. Mike Reuschel allowed Van Sant to ask a few questions. Didi Hoffman: I moved out in July But then, all of a sudden Susan moves into our house. According to social media reports the incident occurred in South Florida. The only thing I found about it was that is was in Florida, the poor lady (who was stabbed repeatedly) didnt survive but the other victim survived. Police said the suspect was taken into custody without incident with the assistance of the North Bay Village Police Department. Dies geschieht in Ihren Datenschutzeinstellungen. Sie knnen Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ndern. A man identified as Abdulateef, popularly known as Dagana, has been stabbed to death by his second wife after he caught her with another man in their matrimonial home. Caroline Reuschel: My husband and I know how lucky we are to have had that weekend it was beyond beautiful. According to Detective Angel Rodriguez, who is also a spokesman for Miami-Dade Police Department, officers responded to a call of an adult female having been stabbed by her husband. Sue was then 38 years old and a hospice nurse. He's not cut off from any family members. Peter Van Sant: Did she have a problem with alcohol? Joseph Traeger is accused of killing his wife, Jeneen Catanzaro, on Nov. 28. In her closing argument, Finnell insists Mike would never try to kill for money. Traeger first told investigators that Catanzaro told him to move out in October, but at her request, he moved back into the house on Nov. 28, documents said. Mike's injuries were a lot less serious. WebWhen police were called to the upscale Gainesville, Florida, home of Mike and Sue Reuschel in the early morning hours of February 3, 2018, they found the couple stabbed Miami-Dade police detectives were at the scene where they have been speaking to neighbors around the area. Caroline Reuschel answers a call from her father while talking with '48 Hours" correspondent Peter Van Sant. Prosecutor Sean Brewer says justice was served to a man who lied to investigators and to the jury. The alleged side dude stood up and immediately tried to defend himself all to little avail. WebThe 41-year-old Pinellas Park man is charged with murder and attempted murder. A video is circulating online which purports to show a Florida man catching a woman described as his wife, and killing her and her lover, MTO News has learned. The video I said, "Yes.". She is alleged to have called back "I don't. The man, Thanks for contacting us. Clark later suffered severe burns when he set himself on fire whilst sitting in his car. But the prosecution says there is no question Mike wanted Sue dead. According to court documents, while Clark was stabbing his victim he and Alleyne's father had a "strange conversation" over FaceTime, reports WESH. Sue continued her angry texts: "I am filing for divorce." Caroline Reuschel: Sue was pretty adamant about throwing me a shower My mother was invited, but none of my mother's friends were invited. Sue handed over her credit card and it was done. 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